If you're happy to give us the name/number and post code of the property then we can check if it's registered if this in doubt. Comment by The house sale went through but our solicitors have been unable to transfer the title to ourselves as the proper paperwork was not sent from America by the vendors in an English Law format. Also, in the Form OC2, there is a section for documents referred to in the title register and those not. They would not refer for example to boundaries between each property. Our title register number is WA610900, Rhys - the register refers to it as being filed so I imagine your solicitor got a copy before you bought the title. This is a blog so you really need our support team to check an respond Bernard Trying to hunt down title deeds and being unsure of who may have them in the past is exactly why it is so vital to have, and maintain, the register. Title deed was in his name. If i write to the Registry with all the details, will they be able to tell me who that was? I am trying to find out who is responsible for a boundary fence, my neighbour says that information on their Deeds details their responsibility for boundary fencing. He will only communicate by letter and will not give an email or telephone number. I have been the sole owner of the house for over 20 years after the property was in joint names of my partner and myself prior to that) and the mortgage was paid off by myself around that time. 25 April 2018. Kim - I'm unsure if your comment is seeking a response but the following may assist if read in conjunction with the general details provided in the original blog article itself. Our PG 62 for example explains how rights can be extinguished and sometimes 'abandoned' https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/easements. Does that mean we have to send that for the title plan with that form also then? I kept the original in case I ever do need it. Louise If the conveyancing solicitor for the farmer forgot in 2002 to send this document to the land registry how is it then "forgotten" in 2004 when he sold the land to the gentleman before me. on form OC2, should I fill in the second half of section 7? AdamH posted on The property is now too large for just my husband and I so we have decided to sell. If that is the case and we don't have a copy then the only options are to try the developer or check your own paperwork to see if you had a copy and you kept it. Hi. Peter J King - titles have been electronically registered for a number of years prior to 2003. 09 July 2019. So the registered details hold more weight if accurate based on the Transfer submitted and registered. https://www.gov.uk/search-property-information-land-registry, Comment by Lynnette, Lynnette - just reply to the auto response with the specifics, Comment by Also we would like to know what is an 'Official Copy' of the register as the document describes? Our online guidance explains the registration requirements. 13 January 2019, Am I entitled to see the deeds of a property I hope to purchase before I obtain a mortgage or engage a solicitor etc, Comment by 18 October 2019, Hi Adam Lenders will vary considerably re such matters not only re a Yes/No but in their reasons for either decision so in my experience I would not say you are left with a house you cannot sell. Comment by Lynnette - I have advised colleagues to use the current registered names and postal address. Comment by As such they may not be published immediately. Comment by ianflowers I had a copy of the official title in my cabinet therefore they took a copy of this. https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-property-and-land/copies-of-deeds, Comment by 21 August 2018. akawa Do I need to get them changed and how do I do this? Its agood idea to keep the original deeds though, as they can hold extra information, about legal boundaries or who the previous owner was, for example. When you go to Solictor and both you and your partner sign them do you receive a copy? 06 November 2019. As explained in the blog article we dont retain the original deeds/documents. posted on Now we can't find them, so far. I have to accept that I may never get the deeds back and I really wanted them for historical purposes. Generally, we only have the original title deeds whenland or property is registered for the first time, as we need them to prepare the register. JohnnyW posted on how do I get this changed? Comment by Looking for advice. So: posted on I suspect the issue they are referring to relates to what is known as a 'protective entry' on the register that states that the title is subject to any easements/covenants which may have existed prior to the 1968 deed but we do not know if any exist or not. 05 July 2019. I have received a letter from neighbours solicitor stating it is their land, and they can prove it. Am I right in assuming that since the whole field is within my boundary that they have no claim on it and that even if they were able to come up with some old paperwork suggesting that they were given it by the previous owner (deceased), the land continues to be mine? 18 May 2018. They do so for electoral roll purposes. She was indicted by a Catawba County grand jury on one count of embezzlement by a local or charitable officer . posted on Marie-Louise Morley posted on If you need a copy of the deed, you will need to lodge a postal application on form OC2 and this attracts a 7 fee. We are in the process of selling our house. 28 May 2019. posted on Neil - you'll need an up to date Land Charges search so anything 'cleared' is most likely not needed as we would be looking at the most recent result. Hoping you could offer some advice. AdamH DEEDS.COM INC. 1997 - 2023 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED | (330) 606-0119 | P.O. Jason - one a title is registered there is nothing substantial as the details are held electronically. 04 April 2018. If I have understood correctly you appear to be focussing on the rights granted and reserved under the specific 1985 Act. The registration services you obtained them from issue official copies for use for official purposes and it is one of these people should use rather than the originals. Marika Fityo AdamH 22 October 2018. Any advice would be much appreciated! Catsmother The bank cannot find any trace of the title deeds or any trace that there was a mortgage/account after searching by name and DOB. This should be sent to HM Land Registry Citizen Centre, PO Box 74, Gloucester GL14 9BB". Lynnette Yardley Comment by 13 November 2019, Apologies for jumping on this thread, not sure how else to ask a question. Any advice you could give would be greatly appreciated as we waited months to find the right house and we really don't want to loose it but at the same time we have to weigh up the risks. posted on Apologies if this is the incorrect portal but I was wondering; if you could help us with some info. There are no wavy lines cut anywhere on either document but there are red markings on the front of the Duplicate that could be a code of some sorts, they reflect the margins, I think. If there are no title documents referred to as 'filed' in the register then it unlikely that we we hold any deeds which will show the boundary with more precision. So if the register refers to a filed deed and you wanted a copy then youd complete box 7 with the entry/title details. https://www.gov.uk/registering-land-or-property-with-land-registry/update-or-correct-the-register, Comment by Sam Miller You dont need to hold anything. Comment by Comment by Comment by Keith Pugsley The first thing to consider as you've mentioned is whether your property is already registered with us. Michele Comment by posted on The original deeds can still be useful so always good to hang in to them Chris - correct. EX39 5QF, Comment by posted on 13 October 2020, Hello I am waiting to receive the original deeds of a property I am selling, would you be able to tell me how many days it usually takes to receive this document? posted on Find Catawba County Housing Characteristics and Mortgage Characteristics. Is this something the Land Registry might be able to help with? My mother passed away 12 years ago. I assumed this would have all been sorted by our solicitors/mortgage company when we bought the property; it was not a new home. Is the reference to "plan of the above Title" the same as "Title Deeds"? posted on Laura McConnell If theres a name missing then you can apply to update the register and include a copy of driving licence or passport (name page). Many thanks. I had a joint mortgage . Many years ago my solicitor had said there was a covenant on the property prohibiting keeping hoofed animals. Can you help? Norma As the deed is published I would believe that it is not amendable if I wished it to now permit me bringing such animals onto my property because it could affect others. posted on Would they be available to the purchaser online? posted on posted on liz posted on posted on Tom O'Callaghan Hi Adam - Sadly it is a mistake during the either the registration or conveyancing and as we have the evidence of ownership from 1935 and can physically take the conveyance either to the nearest office (North West London) for them to examine the evidence and amend the records as we guess it can't be done online (or can it?) We are selling my dad's house (purchased in 1968) and have a letter where the solicitor has signed for the 'title deeds and documents' in 1989 (when the mortgage was paid off). posted on Rhys Any help greatly appreciated - thank you. Fax: (828)465-1911 Catawba County Courthouse 100-B SW Blvd, Justice Center Newton, NC 28658 Once confirmed youd send us a copy of that letter of confirmation along with an application to update the register Brian Leahy We no longer have a mortgage and the building society say they have confirmed discharged of their interest in the property. Comment by My current solicitor (I'm looking to sell) says that the Land Registry boundary is not definitive. Phone: (828) 465-1573. If the mortgage was taken out pre-2000 then the lender might have had a copy of the registered title in the form of a charge certificate - sometimes when they say they sent the deeds to us they mean that document. 10 August 2018. This can be a quite an involved process for those who have not made such an application before, and so many will get a conveyancer, such as a solicitor, to act on their behalf. posted on We are hoping to pay off the rent owner/covenant beneficiary but havent received our deeds yet do you know how long it will take for the deeds to be updated with our new ownership? (we will change the name in Company Registrar) then we need to update name in LR. Comment by Much appreciated. Jordan I also came across old conveyance/mortgage documents from the early/mid 1800s for a relative's cottage, long since sold, so I asked the local record office and library/archives section if they wanted it. 1. Comment by posted on John - if a buyer's mortgage lender won't secure against that risk then yes but not all buyers/lenders will take that view in my experience. The original conveyancing solicitor may be best placed to consider the options open to your son in this matter, but you can of course consult another solicitor if you wish. Now after reading the above comments I am not so sure this would be a good idea. There would probably have been no compulsion to register at the time they bought the house circa 1955. Comment by Before the instrument may be recorded, the Register of Deeds must collect the tax due and mark the instrument to indicate that the tax has been paid and the amount of the tax paid. We can't interpret the lease for you so very much something to rely on your conveyancer for and/or if in doubt discuss with your fellow freeholder also. Thank you for this helpful blog, Frank. Comment by the biggest scam ever 0 out 130,000 for customer care, Comment by Section 3.2.1 covers upgrading a possessory title after lapse of time. Jordan The guide is written for legal professionals and may therefore contain some unfamiliar terms. posted on If you dont have a chequebook then you would pay by postal order. As mentioned, the charge amount may be shown in the charge document but this is not usual. Lenders will sometimes charge a redemption fee to complete the formalities when a mortgage is paid off. 29 October 2020. If the right granted is flawed and/or hasnt been used then you may need to look at getting a new right granted by #35 or see if you can claim the right. I obtained a copy of the 'full register' for title number WYK140544 a couple of years ago but it is limited in detail and i specifically wanted information regarding the following that shows 'original filed' ( however i could do with all entries relating to this title.) Sellers are not bothered about looking into it further and recommended that we take an indemnity insurance out. I may be able to offer some advice based on the register timelines and experience around such things. AdamH Comment by I hope you can help me. JohnnyW Thank you for your reply, the property was first registered in Dec 1994 after I purchased it in Oct 1994 (I have a copy of the Land Registry entry) and the deeds were not returned to me at that time. We have had the Duplicate since 2000'ish after purchasing the freehold. Sandra - apologies but your confusion means that the questions then confuse me. Comment by Comment by These have been passed down through the family since my great grandfather bought the whole row back in the 1930's. Linda - if theres no mention of covenants on the register then there are none registered. But they invariably require the agreement of the neighbour affected. I was happy to discover that HM Land Registry is actually very forward-looking and isusingdigital technologyto transform how land registration works. Comment by 01 November 2018. My fear stems from the fact that in the 80's a solicitor managed to secure a 60,000 loan on a property (that I had rented out ) without my knowledge and my house was repossessed. ianflowers Comment by 27 June 2019. Sorry if my question seems obvious but does the freehold information file title override the leasehold or are both applicable? I may contact l reg via main number to check. posted on If the house is in England or Wales you'll be able to check this via our website. 01 February 2019. posted on Our house is in my name, Peter, and want transfer into joint names. Jeff - nobody is encouraged. As a final mark of desperation yesterday I sent my solicitor an Email to my solicitor which said; However I note that you have also contacted us by email previously and I am unsure whether you have obtained a copy of either Conveyance for No 14 or No 12 asa advised in the email reply of the 2nd March Comment by posted on Marie-Louise - theres no fee. Rhys - it would. It is labourious for me to fill out the OC2 form - during which I am expected to declare the fee I'm paying - instead of having a simple web form where i can tick boxes. Your interest is presumably in the sale monies so it can be a question of ensuring that your share in those is protected as the Transfer would be by him as the registered owner. If land is acquired by adverse possession, do the Land Registry record evidence of the boundary set (measurement/photos/descriptions) for registration? Comment by posted on posted on Please see our guidance 'Get historical registers' at https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-property-and-land/search-the-register . Is that right? posted on We later purchased the freehold land from the owner in 2006. The official records are kept in the Register of Deeds office in the Cleveland County Courthouse. 08 January 2021, hi just a quick question over our deeds, is it possible to find out who passed on the original deeds to the land registry, i ask this because the solicitors and the last couple of lenders i have spoken to say they all used the digital records from the land registry, ive gone back as far as i can go, as our original lender has ceased trading. Any original or copy pre-registration conveyancing deeds that existed are generally returned to the solicitor acting at the time of first registration. posted on They can include: HM Land Registry records are digital, so we dont store paper title deeds. Comment by Mandy Marion - I am sorry to hear of your loss. The solicitor just says they don't need any paperwork apart from the online title plan. After creating your account Sign Out then Sign In again to begin searching. Rhys AdamH Stuart - there is no one best or ideal approach, but there are some options open to you which may help in completing an ownership trail. 11 November 2019. We purchased our house outright without mortgage and were only given our title deeds in the form of a photocopy. Comment by Comment by FENSA and Oil/has/electrical certificates I have downloaded a document via the land registry site that gives a title number and names my mother as the registered ownerso I think this means that land registry holds digital copies of the deeds and she needn't worry about the sale of her house. 28 May 2020. ianflowers Comment by ianflowers posted on Now, I have read this blog and comments saying that Land Registry no longer hold paper copies. I have a similar predicament to Sandra, the convayancing solicitor for Santander, my lender, tells me they forwarded all the documentation to my property built in the 1850s to the Land Regisrty. 02 February 2019. So they shouldnt differ re details. I wrote to Highways England - Land Enquiries over 7 weeks ago and due to their volume of work, I can't expect a reply within at least 12 weeks. When you bought the leasehold the 'value' was in that tenure hence the mortgage. The posts and replies above are most interesting and I would like to thank all your contributing staff for their time and effort in compiling them. 04 December 2018. The property is registered under DN360950 so the 'deeds' are the electronic register and title plan we hold and which you can access online. 24 September 2020. posted on They will also need to have their identities verified Where would i find this information? Comment by posted on ianflowers Catawba County, North Carolina, is located in the western part of the state in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains. 21 February 2018, Deeds have taken on a far greater definition as any buyers lawyer will know, they end up with a bundle at the end of a purchase and almost certainly send them to their client (for storage reasons) and they will be: 07 September 2019, Paul - the title plan shows the registered extent so is the one you would go by. posted on Are you able to check the progress of this please? Hopefully you will receive their reply in the coming days. Chris Hello, I have been in my property since 1995 and received a letter in August from a Solicitor to the original owners regarding unregistered land adjoining the property and the title deeds they had in storage could be collected or sent for storage elsewhere. AdamH In addition, excise tax must be included with the filing fee for a deed. 18 January 2021. Now imagine that couple separate years later and it's discovered that your register is incorrect. Many thanks again for all your help. As the article states the original deeds/documents submitted when a property is first registered are returned to the applicant at that time. posted on 828-465-1573 I have someone named in the short particulars of the lease on my deeds and want to try and contact them to discuss freehold purchase. Jane Buck Let's see how that gets responded to. Our conveyancing solicitor is currently holding the deeds in their safe (they are based in Kent). All documents is a misleading statement and I suspect they mean All documents needed to confirm your ownership for example, Comment by If they have destroyed them I think it's totally out of order. When you bought for example the same issue will have arisen. AdamH 23 June 2020, David - the register and title plan can be downloaded online. Searches Wayne Redler Any help would be greatly appreciated. RESTRICTION: No disposition by a sole proprietor of the registered estate (except a trust corporation) under which capital money arises is to be registered unless authorised by an order of the court. Your conveyancer is the best one to advise you here but our PG 5 explains the registration requirements for you https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/adverse-possession-of-1-unregistered-land-and-2-registered-land, Comment by posted on ianflowers Infractions court will be held on Friday in Courtroom 4. 20 June 2019, Thank you ..I will follow the links as you suggested . posted on 17 February 2020, Thanks I already searched. If your solicitor is a conveyancing one they can apply online in most cases for all three, Comment by The electronic title record is the definitive record of ownership and whether the conveyancing 'deeds' held are originals or certified copies, they are not needed to confirm ownership. 24 January 2020. Marriage Records can show whether a wedding is legally valid, which may be required to obtain benefits . 27 April 2018, Hi ian, im in the process of buying a house. We dont know how this has happened. Many thanks, Comment by Hope someone can help me. AdamH If it is, the paper deeds will not be required to update the title register in respect of the ownership. It is some kind of confusing and I found it a little complicated. So whilst I can appreciate your frustrations your search is Im afraid a fruitless one as there is nothing to find. My solicitor told me in 2014, when I purchased my current property, that they had sent my bundle of deeds to Land Registry and that all I get back these days is the current 2 or 3 page deed that relates to the current day purchase (which of course includes mention of any historic convenants etc). What can we do ? Just searching how long title deeds would come through from my lender, the house was paid off at the end of May and was told by the call centre advisor that these would be sent to myself of sent to the lender for pick up which I went for , they also told me that these would be sent by the end of June, I went into the lender this morning to ask about them and they told me it would be about 2 months before they are release as they have to be sent to the land register and other to be recorded, so the call centre advisor was wrong, no wonder she said this as she spoke with a foreign language, but you would think that these advisors in the Mortgage Team would be trained correctly. posted on Enter credit card information for secure processing. If the land is not registered or it's registered to next door then we won't have any details of the purchase you refer to. I will do that We do not hold any information on unregistered land. Those Transfers were some years apart and may/may not refer to the boundaries and their maintenance I'm at No. If you'd like us to check our historical records, please use our contact form - https://www.gov.uk/guidance/contact-hm-land-registry giving full details and we'll get back to you as soon as possible. Comment by hope you can help. posted on under the right to buy provisions (see paragraph 2 section (a) ). Linda - I should firstly mention that we register ownership and other interests in land rather than the buildings on it. Is this correct. The first registration application went in weeks ago. 18 August 2020, Linda - very unlikely that there are any originals so if the covenants are referred to in deed referred to on the register as filed then its that scanned copy you would be relying on Data Extraction and Download - August 2017 . I can provide details of the land which is registered to me so you can see the unregistered part. A conveyance can easily impose a trust, and since the Register will never give details of that trust there are times when it is not simply 'a good idea' but essential to retain the deeds. 20 October 2019. How long that takes and what issues arise are ones only your conveyancer can assist you with. The LR title plan does not agree exactly with the deeds plan. * At the top of the first page, below the 3-inch margin, state the title of the instrument (i.e. 17 April 2023. posted on AdamH Next door on a similar line to us, is this patch of land with a derelict cottage, which we tend the trees etc and keep tidy ,The title on my deeds talks of a differently named cottage and I assumed it was our cottage under a different name. Alistair - I'm afraid we can't advise you on such matters and very much something your solicitor is for. Ive lived in the property for 25 years , the original deeds were destroyed in the war. 06 July 2018. It would take several weeks as there is a wait time between receipt and consideration and then the inspection and wider checks which may be required will take time also. So our mortgage provider destroyed them without informing us. Hello Julie, Is this correct and do we need to go ahead and get the property registered prior to putting on the market. If you check the register for your title it may refer to the date of first registration in brackets at the start of the register. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/first-registration-of-title-where-deeds-have-been-lost-or-destroyed AdamH AdamH Whilst you do not have to use a solicitor I would strongly recommend that you do at least with regards understanding how the ownership has changed through death/inheritance and what evidence you now need to show that you, as executor for your late Mother (if that is the case), can now transfer the legal ownership to you as the beneficiary. posted on 15 May 2018, Hi. Where can i go from here . Comment by Diana C 08 October 2018. 06 March 2018, Comment by It is a decision for the parties involved, but there are benefits of voluntary registration one of which is that once registered, the deeds do not have to be produced on any sale and so it is of less importance if they are lost or stolen. 11 March 2019, Emma - there is nothing 'automatic' but you can apply to register claimed ownership over time. Comment by warranty deed, quit claim deed, etc.) AdamH Marie-Louise Morley Leela Kunwar They will I suspect retain the original deeds just in case we ask for anything else to be lodged Thank you. Well one is the indemnity you refer to. posted on Geoffrey Taylor 02 July 2018, Jim - the title plan will show the registered general boundaries. Comment by get driving directions from your location, Catawba County Delinquent Tax Sales & Auctions, Catawba County Government Campaign Reports, Catawba County Sheriff's Office Sheriff Sales, Mortgage, Contract to Purchase, or Similar Debt, Deed and title searches in Catawba County, North Carolina. Used to combine areas together for survey purposes. The Land Regsitry title plan only shows the 'general' position of the boundary. We applied for details of his deeds and covenant form land registry and have received those electronic files.