Carrying a handgun in a purse, particularly one that isnt designed specifically to carry a firearm, is problematic at best.
Another p320 "accidental discharge" - The Armory Life Forum In June, Cambridge police Lt. Thomas Ahern filed suit, accusing Sig Sauer of selling a dangerously defective product after his P320 fired on its own while he was in the department's SWAT team van with six other officers. (The defect couldnt be duplicated after the crash.). Give me a break. Not too long after they sold a pistol to the public and United States military thats not even DROP SAFE?!? Hammer guns have a half cock notch for a reason. The sheriff's office said its investigation found no mechanical problems with its deputy's gun. abprototype.com can add the manual safety as well as add the notches in the grip frame. Not sure why it wont let me reply to you, but Ill reply to myself in the hope youll get it. If it were the guns, there would be thousands of cases involving citizensbut there arent. JTF-2 is the only unit in. My gun just went off!
Milwaukee Police Report Issues With Sig P320's Discharging . An x-ray (fluoroscope) of the mechanism in operation could show what, if anything, is happening inside the gun that might prove, or disprove, the contention that the gun is flawed. The Milwaukee police department has had 3 incidents of the Sig discharging while being in a holster sitting in a patrol car in 2023. Bagnells and other lawsuits ABC claims at least 54 discharges and 10 suits against SIG describe instances of P320s going off dating back to 2016, prior to the upgrade. (unless theyre SWAT or something). He wanted TTAG to convey that hes pro-Second Amendment. They didnt have to, but did. These officers are not gunfighters. The Glocks trigger had caught on a fold in the leather holster and it pushed the trigger part way back. PDs are dropping them from contracts. Oct 20, 2022 #36 ; vh20 said: . Picard if Im limited to NCC-1701. For the moron Neanderthals of the Far Right who will scream its the operators fault and we do not give a shit about marketing more safer designed weapons, if such idiotic polices were followed for other consumer goods today we would not have safety glass, anti-lock breaks, back up safeties, child proof medicine caps and chemical bottles, back up cameras, kick back muzzles on chain saws and the list goes on and on. They did, however, note that when they were contacted by ABC, the company pointed out specific circumstances that were subsequently uncovered in the investigations of a number of these incidents. The same should hold true for the insane marketing of pistols like the totally unsafe Glock. The military has found that the pistol has a tendency to eject live rounds among other issues. Many gun makers have had issues with drop firing, unintended discharge, bad safeties This is a resource I compiled of semi-auto pistols that have been recalled or Upgraded for Safety related problems like Drop Firing, Safeties that Malfunction, Risk of Accidental Discharge, etc. Too expensive to use their customers as beta testers. Glock's and Sig P320 are all designated as Double-Action-Only fire control mechanisms. Im not even sure I would do that with my 92 or something else that can be both decocked and locked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-ZZ6pynGLM Yes, but that did not mean the machine would be able to go on being marketed like that. The fact is that the plaintiffs will get paid regardless of who did what. BTW it was HK that made the first polymer gun, Glock actually stole the idea for the G17 from them. He had to be reprimanded by the range officer twice for unsafe handling of his pistol. Hey, Im sitting here staring at my P320, waiting for it to go bang! If the gangster greed monger criminal Capitalvanians in the gun industry had their products under the jurisdiction of the consumer safety administration all the newer striker fired guns would never have been allowed on the market unless they had manual safeties and a safe take down system. It has nothing to do with Glock. If the military was going to go cheap then they should have thrown Taurus into the mix. You simply may not PREFER one make to another, or may simply dislike another make, but were to the point in semi-auto pistol production history where amongst the big brands, the only real distinctions are preference. I have no idea. The VIP screening with the meet and greet was like $600. The SIG P320, which has been manufactured since 2014, is known to go off without the trigger being pulled if it's dropped and lands on the ground at a certain angle. Hello perpetrators, Lee Paige is clearly the gift that keeps on giving though our buddy Hunter Biden is a close second! Weird how that might happen. Theyre just on a 30 year nap hoping what they did will carry them forever. Posts: 21156 | Registered: November 05, 2003. In a straight up Glock vs. Sig battle, the United States Marines chose Sig, and that was AFTER watching the P320 perform for four years. When he put his hand on the grip, the weapon fired, according to the lawsuit. And have the dropping 320 go off? This is just blind greed using some careless doofus to sell a lie and cash in because a civil jury, like the average American voter, can be manipulated easily though emotion, tears and stories of anguish, pain and suffering at the foot of some super-rich evil corporations cold-blooded behest. As a result, the P320s were withdrawn from service, leaving the JTF-2 with their older P226s. So it never had a history of a potential valid claim for ambulance chasers to work off of. A plastic gun that has a tendency to go off by itself. Wheee!!. Theyve now come to the attention of the legacy media. Were not saying that the suits against GLOCK are any more (or less) substantiated than those against SIG. The P320 should be scrapped and SIG Sauer USA should redesign a new pistol around the striker firing mechanism instead of just retrofitting a hammer fired pistol (P250). I guess none got her the attention she wanted and a national coverage so she went in for the bang. Anyway around here they do. Sig fanboys are almost as bad as Glock fanboys. Theyre cheering for a noose around their own precious Glocks throat. Trying to categorically say Brand X is better than Brand Y! SIG ultimately settled that lawsuit. The Moron engineer who decided to put that on the Glock should have been hung by his dirty balls. Thats just myopic brand lust on parade. Yes, a lot of police officers only shoot when they have to for qual. But now, P320 is the subject. He probably had a double until it was over. The thing is, youd probably need to generate many Gs of force in both directions simultaneously. Either one could have been a gun or a Barbie. The real tell is that of all the cases, most are cops of some kind. Guess it hasnt dawned on them that: 1. Notify me of follow-up comments by email.
Sig Sauer Faces $10 Million Lawsuit over P320 Pistol After Alleged Look a fanboy. That wont last for long, the P320 (M17 AND M18) are already failing in the field. The Defiant regardless of who is the captain. SIG is choosing to litigate their problems away. First off, no joke on me. I love when people call law enforcement officers highly trained. Most dont get more training than what they had in the academy unless they are getting paid time to train, or are going for something speciality such as S.W.A.T. Sig makes a damn fine weapon and theres nothing wrong with it. Which in and of itself is user error / misuse. Pity that some of the most common reactions fall into two over simplistic categories: 1.
Misfires and Lawsuits Plague Sig Sauer P320 Great job, this threat needed some levity! Frankly, I think that ship is the best looking sci-fi ship design ever, with the Excelsior a very close second.
Lawsuit: Sig Sauer pistol fired without trigger pull - Portsmouth Herald But Im observant enough to see the same voices that said in 1985 that This new fangled Glock is a just a plastic toy! BAM. Too much MIM in that crap SIG, the old ones were great. The settlement requires the gunmaker to reimburse owners of . It provides another example of how the gun free zone purportedly keeps people safe by not only keeping guns away, but by requiring more discharges nearby. That show with no Shatner-Kirk and only a Nimoy-Spock wouldnt have gotten past the first season. Alec Baldwin fatally shot a cinematographer and injured a director with a prop gun on the set of the film "Rust" and the distraught actor repeatedly asked afterwards why he . On Nov. 5, 2020, a recently-purchased SIG Sauer P320 pistol went off unexpectedly at a training range in Dwyer Hill, outside of Ottawa. The trigger bar has to push up on it, for it to release. The design was incorporated from Bruce Grays trigger kit around the time of the original drop safety fix.
Unlawful Discharge of a Firearm: Texas Laws - The Law Office of Greg Special Forces pistol discharge not caused by technical failure Really? Sigs bid was low because they were still pissed after being beat by Beretta in cost. The current allegations, then, are different, claiming that the P320 is prone to un-commanded discharges.. Thinking its okay to wrap a loaded gun in a towel and toss it into a gym bag is what we get when departments refuse to hire candidates who score too high on IQ tests. That a pistol will be carried in a way it shouldnt (say, in a gym bag or a purse). By hoping Sig gets taken down for the P320, theyre actually setting up their own pet brand to be the next on the chopping block. The details are not out yet, but they use Glocks, and I will make a good bet that her trigger finger did the deed. Both companies, instead, took to pro-gun industry forums to offer a rebuttal, giving no opportunity to answer questions. I cant stand Glocks but SIG P320s are junk. in Capitalvania. These cops seem pretty dang stupid if they put loaded guns in gym bags and purses with other stuff and carry them around, especially a gun that lacks manual safeties. The American manufacturer of the new pistols belonging to Canadas special forces claims the soldier wounded in an accidental discharge last fall was using the wrong holster for the weapon. three changes to the original design. One hell of a conspiracy. So does any of this mean theres something wrong with the P320? Had a buddy, years ago, that was a deputy for Orange County in California. Its pathetic how often these legal stunts work. When he opened the drawer the hinges pulled the Charters trigger. Fundamentally, the bits that the ambulance chaser claims are flawed function exactly the same way as a S&W M&P. I agree. Again, these are examples the plaintiff in this case is using to support his claim that the P320 is prone to un-commanded discharges.. First I have no problem with the Mk 25 or any other Sig thats metal.